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First, I'd like to ask for some clarification, if you don't mind. I am having a little trouble understanding something you shared.

In the graph which plots the change in PTSD symptoms over time (PCL-5), it seems that the time until maximum symptom improvement was about 22 days instead of 5? So, from 7/5/24->7/27/24. Does this mean that the patient required several weeks of treatment, or did they undergo a course of treatment for 5 days, which led to further continuing improvement beyond the initial 5-day period?

Also, as someone who would be interested in this kind of treatment (which I assume involves SAINT?), is it available, or will it be available in the near future, at either Acacia or Fermata? I have what is probably C-PTSD and I'm wondering if, regardless of formal diagnosis (or lack thereof), the fMRI could create a map of what needs fine-tuning and inform how the treatment should unfold so as to see an improvement in these symptoms as much as possible.

And last but not least, keep doing what you're doing, you're a trailblazer and as far as I'm concerned, you and the ones you collaborate with are building the long-awaited future of psychiatry. I mean it.

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That data was a 5 day course at fermata, and follow up.

More information about any specific person would require a consult.

Both acacia and fermata offer this kind of evaluation

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I hope you don't mind (English isn't my first language and I am not a physician), I don't understand, would follow-up involve ongoing treatment in addition to assessing how the patient was improving? Mainly asking because I don't live in the US, can't have insurance cover any part of the treatment and would like to know if the cost would be for 5 days, or more (5*x). Also, I should specify that I *am* aware of the approximate cost of a 5-day course of treatment, so you don't have to tell me that. Many thanks!

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This sounds tooooo good to be true!!!! But I do hope it's that good and that true. I for one I'm sick with the constant refrain of trauma-informed care that is so vague and woowoo sometimes and doesn't achieve anything near what you are showcasing in this novel treatment. I mean, could we have the first actual cure in psychiatry?!!!

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We have been scared off the word cure!

I don't think we know what to do if we found a cure for something. Given our past transgressions, I think it is right that we are careful with that word.

The definition of the word, in the dictionary, is to be left with no signs or symptoms of a disease. It does not specify the duration of the remission, which is the word I usually use.

That probably matters, and I suspect the durability of this is not permanent.

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amazing

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It really is.

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This gives me hope. So beneficial and less harm!!!

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