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SkinShallow's avatar

Leaving aside the FDA approval process and the rules and biases of medicine (I do love me some House of God too, tho the hope of the ending does seem naively of its time now), which are obviously being badly broken here, the key is perhaps the difference between a medical and psychotherapeutic mode here, particularly a rather traditional psychotherapeutic mode.

Because while not every oncologist will need chemo, and not every psychiatrist will need antipsychotics, there are significant branches of psychotherapeutic practice, particularly psychodynamic ones, that not only recommend but REQUIRE the therapist to undergo analysis themselves, and while I'm not aware of any CBT derived approaches that would have such a requirement, I've certainly seen recommendations that practitioners use/try techniques themselves even in for example manuals for WHO's mhGAP scalable, widely tested basic interventions. So perhaps in case of what seems like drug-facilitated psychotherapy rather than the drug as such this proposition isn't as egregious or offensive as it might seem, though obviously it doesn't really make much sense because presumably an experience of person with let's say combat PTSD and a person without it will be different anyway (unless we assume everyone is meaningfully traumatized in a comparable way or other some such Gabor Mateish nonsense).

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Dan Oliver's avatar

good critique, especially of the dangers of religiosity - rick's insistence on developing his own therapy manual rather than testing novel drugs alongside existing modalities is both unwise and bad science. agree with you there.

however, to deny the existence of subjectively unique aspects such as what is being termed as "mystical experiences" denies the need to reliably+validly quantify these effects with respects to their potential therapeutic mechanisms of action. taking this further by dismissively claiming "tripping" (already a yet-to-be-well-defined phenotype within present research) is an adverse event seems premature if not just as dangerously naive....

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